Former Secretary of Defense James Mattis emphasizes a cautious approach to the U.S.-Taliban negotiations, advocating “Verify, then trust.” In an interview with Margaret Brennan, he also offers insights from his new book, “Call Sign Chaos: Learning to Lead.”

Retired Air Force Chief Master Sergeant Dave Nordel, who grew up on an Orland farm, shares leadership lessons drawn from his experiences in agriculture and the military. In his new book, “When The Cows Lie Down,” Nordel emphasizes the importance of noticing subtle signs and maintaining a positive attitude to lead effectively.